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Finovate can be a tough crowd.

The conference has set the bar high when it comes to product pitches. This is not a venue for the faint at heart or for vendors with buggy demos. The crowd attending this year’s Finovate Fall does not suffer fools kindly as a number of firms discovered during their presentations. 

But most of the demo went smoothly and gave us a wide cross-section of new technologies that could revolutionize any number of areas of fintech: artificial intelligence, robo-advisor, customer experience, corporate finance, cybersecurity and lending solutions.

Bradley Leimer on Twitter

Great to be here at #Finovate again in NY to see the best financial technology demos and teams and to experience what I’ve long coined the Disneyland of Fintech™️@Finovate

This was my first time at Finovate and I found it to be informative and fast-paced. Lots of information to process in a short time. Well run conference overall with only minor technical glitches.

There were 40 demos on Monday (yes 40!) and I’ve covered most of them here for you. 

Artificial Intelligence


Appen on Twitter

@AppenGlobal is at Finovate New York. Meet us at the conference to learn about high-quality data solutions for AI fraud prevention, customer service, and risk management. #MachineLearning #ArtificialIntelligence #AI #DataScience #Finovate

Appen has an interesting business model. They use a curated form of crowdsourcing to help firms who need large data sets to train machine learning algorithms. Appen’s strength is in providing what they call “human-annotated” data. Apparently,  humans are still better than software at managing subjectivity, understanding intent and resolving ambiguity. 


Exagens has built an autonomous AI-powered financial assistant that they have named, Personal Banker. They claim that their product has helped their client Desjardins, which is a federation of Canadian credit unions, to open 90,000 new accounts with $500mm in new deposits.

Their application combines behavioral science with machine learning and analyzes customer conversations to increase engagement and conversion rates by 4X.  One example, is that the system does not recommend calling people if they have recently paid fees since they would be less receptive.

Mapa Research on Twitter

Rather than make generalised recommendations, digital personal assistants can make single, relevant personalised recommendations based on behavioural insights says Exagens at #Finovate

Exagens is headquartered in Canada and was founded in 2013.


@NestReady uses machine learning to increase qualified leads, drive conversions, and increasing portfolio retention for banks and other lenders.  They are headquartered in Canada, have raised $5.7 million, and their platform is live with 10 clients in the U.S. and Canada.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

MachineLearning models from @NestReady identify incoming mortgage leads that are most likely to close to help loan officers prioritize #finovate

Anything that can provide actionable intelligence will make the end user’s life easier and increase their productivity.



The four pillars of banks digital future: Mobile & online banking, omnichannel lending & account opening. roboadvisor that can be seamlessly integrated into a mobile banking. They claim to have 400 clients with over 5 million end users

$1.4T – aggregate assets of community banks
$33T – stock market

Mapa Research on Twitter

Access Softek at #Finovate highlights a key issue with robo advisors – they tend to be standalone and hard for users to find and manage. There is a need for better integration across channels.


Aixigo has developed a digital wealth integration layer to build model portfolios, algorithmic models and models of models.

The company is headquartered in Germany and was founded in 1999. They have 105 employees and their solutions reach 3 million end customers who are concentrated in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. 875 portfolios per second.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

@aixigo brings a no entry sign on stage but forgets that it blocks the screen #finovate

There might be a bit of a language barriers during their initial push into the US.  Reading through the English version of their website that is trying to explain how their robo-advisor software helps customers understand their options, they say that “with such functions you avoid abortions due to ignorance or lack of understanding”.

Consumer Retail Apps

I had a hard time naming this section, because these apps are all so different. But the common theme is that they are all designed to be companions to and enhance consumer retail transactions.


Bumped is an app with a different spin on consumer loyalty reward programs. They want to consumers to link their credit cards to a Bumped account and received cash back in the form of retailer’s publicly-traded stock.  Turning shoppers into shareholders!

It is similar to what Acorns is doing with their Spare Change Roundup feature combined with the Found Money loyalty program that rewards consumers with money deposited into their investment accounts whenever they make a purchase at a partner retailer. While Acorns invests in a generic basket of ETFs, Bumped purchases fractional shares of the stock of the company you’re purchasing from and their brand partners include Home Depot, Target, CVS, and Spotify. (See Acorns: We’re Not Just Gathering Assets, We’re Building a Brand)

Heather Sugg on Twitter

With @Bumped I can earn stock shares in the companies I spend a lot of money on? Cool idea for anyone not investing in stocks. I wonder what kind of fees are involved. #Finovate

Surprise! There are no fees associated with Bumped investment accounts. This could be a differentiator if they can get Acorns’ customers to care about the fees they pay, but I don’t see that happening.  

Acorns has a huge lead with over four million customers, so Bumped has an uphill battle for Millennial eyeballs.  They already have an impressive list of partners, but this list needs to grow exponentially to encourage enough consumers to download and use the app.

While the individual stock angle will get them some marketing heat, it puts a serious limitation on their reward program since it only open to companies with publicly-traded shares.  That is a very small fraction of the total US retail market.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

Mobile app from @bumped turns cash back rewards into an investing experience #Finovate

Bumped is headquartered in Oregon and has raised $14.1 million in a Series A funding round.


Bucket is a combination mobile app and point of sale (POS) system that is trying to eliminate the need for merchants to give physical coins when making change by instantly converting them into digital cash and the into gift cards, charitable donations or savings. They generate revenue on their customers deposits sitting at a partner bank.

Finovate on Twitter

@bucketthechange’s Daniel Kam and Daniel Ross showing off technology that integrates with existing retail POS systems to facilitate coin-less cash transactions #Finovate

Their goal is to mobilize the value of coin by targeting the more than 80% of global consumer transactions that are still made using cash. Unfortunately, this stat is highly skewed by the tremendous volume from developing countries. In the US, cash only accounts for 31% of transactions.

In the EU, cash is exchanged in 70% of retail transactions, with heavier usage in the poorer countries in Eastern Europe.

And that’s going to be a problem for Bucket Technologies, the founders of Bucket, in the long run.  While overall global usage of cash is actually increasing (I was surprised by that), it’s concentrated primarily in lower income households and developing countries. These consumers are inherently less likely to use this kind of app.

With the POS component, Bucket will also have to convince hundreds of retail chains to install their software. At the same time, different marketing is required for lower income consumers to convince them to download the app. Most only use 6-7 apps regularly, so you’re fighting for their attention. It’s the worst kind of chicken and egg scenario. 

I would suggest that Bucket looking to becoming an RIA as well (at least in the US). Then they could open an account for every customer and provide the option of investing in a basket of index ETFs.  


This was one of the best business ideas and company execution I have seen today.  Their demo was well-rehearsed and did a good job explaining the strengths of their service and their value added.  They would be a good partner for banks with their white-labeled API solution and they appear to build customer value right from the start.

Billshark offers a free service that claims they can lower consumer and small business bills through cancellation, negotiation and curated shopping. The company was founded in 2015, is headquartered in Massachusetts, and has 70,000 customers.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

How do I sign up for ⁦@realbillshark⁩ ? An app that will call my vendors and negotiate lower bills or cancel annoying recurring payments. This could be the best idea since the Do Not Call List (which really doesn’t work anyway) #finovate

“Messaging works. Folks who get prompted to try Billshark in text messages are 3 times more likely to complete a negotiation request vs. ones who discover the feature on their own” – Ivo Parashkevov, Charlie co-founder 

beyondthearc on Twitter

@realbillshark = Bill reduction platform. Do you have subscriptions that you *meant* to cancel, but never did? The ability to easily cancel subscriptions is a very cool feature. (And yes, if this works, I’ll be a customer!) https://t.co/ur19WRz9Z3 #Finovate #Fintech

I was wondering how the process works and how they make money. So, I signed up for the Billshark service and found out a few interesting details:

Dan Latimore on Twitter

Emergent trend from the first session at #finovate: firms that recognize that increasing helpful customer touchpoints (rather than constantly selling), is worthwhile for #banks. @exagens @realbillshark


SmrtSvr was one of my favorite products from Finovate Fall Day 1 . Targeting workers in the gig economy or anyone else, like consultants, who get paid via 1099’s, SmrtSvr helps with complicated and difficult tasks like estimating and paying quarterly tax payments and also saving for them.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

As the owner of a firm that pays a lot of 1099 consultants, SmrtSvr app from https://t.co/dAvUsPMEwq could help a lot of them save for & manage their federal & state tax payments #Finovate

While millions of Americans manage their own taxes, it’s especially common for self-employed workers. But the requirement to pay quarterly taxes, which hits about about a third of gig workers, can be a surprise. Since planning is  a bothersome chore that many people ignore, the result is having to pay the IRS with a credit card because you didn’t save for taxes as you went along. 

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

Having to calculate estimated quarterly tax payments is one of the worst aspects of working as a 1099, SmrtSvr from https://t.co/bHBvYqTKj7 takes care of the work for you #Finovate

SmrtSvr has their own digital bank which enables them to open a savings account for every customer and also link to their checking account to monitor deposits.  Once a check for 1099 work is deposited, a small portion can be automatically transferred to the savings account to be used for upcoming quarterly tax payments.

The company is also a certified batch payment provider to the IRS, which enables them to make tax payments on customers’ behalf out of their savings account.  If you don’t have enough for scheduled payments, the app make recommendations to catch up. 

The only downside I could see was that to compare income and expenses requires manual input of every expense. I’d like to see them use data aggregation to connect to credit cards to automatically capture expenses.

Overall, the app is a powerhouse of tools and automation that brings a W2-like experience to gig workers.

Marketing & Training


Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

⁦@Launchfire⁩ uses mobile build a bank game to encourage users to learn your products #finovate

They’ve actually built a game, which looks a lot like SimCity to me, where you build your own bank. During the process, you learn all about the real bank’s products and services. Pretty smart product placement.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

Innovative game from @launchfire that requires uses to correct errors in banks marketing content to ensure that they’ve read & understood it #finovate

I’d be interested to see a pre- versus post-game survey on consumers’ brand recognition and product awareness to measure the game’s effectiveness. 

Ian McKenna on Twitter

Great to see @Launchfire recognising consumers find financial things boring #Gamification is a valuable way to make customer engagement fun #Finovate

Bank customers that use gamified marketing from @Launchfire are 91% more likely to recommend digital products to others #finovate

Customer Experience 

Digital Onboarding

The eponymous fintech firm, Digital Onboarding, uses a combination of customized web pages, gamified incentives and text messaging to motivate customers to complete online account activations. A significant number of prospective customers abandon an online activation at some point.

Ted Brown, the firm’s CEO, reported that new customer onboarding is the number one issue facing retail banks today.   Traditional marketing is not effective in motivating traditional bank customers, he stated, 25-40% of checking accounts are closed every year.

Finovate on Twitter

@DigiOnboarding’s Ted Brown and Jonathan Crossman showcasing a tool that enables banks to instantly create emails and SMS reminders that drive personalized digital experiences #Finovate

Digital onboarding’s software remove human bias from marketing decisions and let bots take over, Brown stated.

There were two customer touch points that Digital Onboarding believe they can offer better customer experiences:

It sounds to me that a lot of what Digital Onboarding does is similar to part of what’s offered by digital marketing firm Hubspot.  I wonder if Digital Onboarding’s focus on banking would give them an edge or if any firm can make use of Hubspot to improve customer response?

Digital Onboarding has 12 employees and has raised $500K. The company was founded in 2015 and is headquartered in Massachusetts. 

RelayItfinovate fall 2018

Relay Networks calls themselves a “secure customer messaging company” that helps businesses better engage their customers through a private channel for sales and support.  It looks like they use text messages with links to direct customers and prospects to a personalized, news-feed style interface where a company can post messages and interact with them.

CEO and co-founder Matt Gillin asked, “If feeds can change the way we interact with friends, why can’t it do the same thing with businesses and customers?” 

The jury is out on whether enough people want another feed in their life that they have to check and scroll through to find the information they’re looking for. But Relay Networks seems to have found a niche.  Launched in 2010, the firm is active in multiple industries and has raised $26 million, with 23+ million total users, and over 1 million customer engagements weekly.

Bradley Leimer on Twitter

Digital onboarding and early engagement is one of the most underrated and underappreciated areas of financial services – second session starts with Relay and a gong. Overall looks like a good platform. Check it out. #Finovate @Finovate

Fintech is just one of six verticals they support (others include healthcare and energy) and they automate many functions including scheduling, cross-selling and bill payment, their Finovate demo was focused on how they can improve onboarding.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

Lots of firms trying to help #banks solve the problem of customers not completing self-directed, online applications, but what’s the best approach? Directly as part of each process like @NestReady? Or layered on top across processes like @relayit? #finovate

One example of how their messaging can help is to prompt prospective customers to complete an online account opening form that they abandoned. Their messaging sits as an overlay across many customer interactions, so they may not have all of the details or be able to dive into a specific one. This is different to the approach of NestReady that is tightly embedded in specific processes. Which approach is right? I guess it depends on your client U/X model.

Relay also offers tool that allows adminan to drag and drop components to design, configure, and automate personalized digital customer experiences through their CX Builder tool.


SaleMove has developed a platform that enables firms to communicate with clients a number of different channels including chat, video and co-browsing.

Founder and CEO Daniel Michaeli explained the importance of having “pure human”, human-to-AI, and “pure AI” communication interaction options, noting that “Bots know the rules and humans know when to break them.”

1. Pure Human
2. Human + AI

3. Pure AI

Salemove is a 4x Finovate Best of Show winner.

Finovate on Twitter

@salemove’s Dan Michaeli and Justin DiPietro showcasing OmniCore, a customer engagement platform that enables contextual sales and support conversations to website visitors in real-time #Finovate

I’ve seen Salemove before at other conferences and have been impressed with their technology. (See 7 Impressions from the Orion Advisor Conference)


Systelos is working on a platform that creates recommendations and connectivity between wealth advisors and their clients that includes public equity, insurance, tax, other integrated services. Interesting UX.

Systelos claims that their technology is “a new way of exchanging value between advisors and their clients.”  They have built a system designed to help advisors move beyond the traditional method of communicating value such as statement returns.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

This is a pretty dashboard from @systelos but why works an advisor use it instead of their #CRM ? Portfolio mgmt, #financialplanning & CRM all have dashboards. Now one more for value creation? #Finovate

Sorry for the typo in the above tweet. My questions was why would an advisor use the Systelos dashboard when he/she already has at least three active dashboards already?  Maybe I’m thinking too practically?

From their demo and website, it appears that Systelos is trying to combine slices of what advisors already have in CRM, risk profiling and financial planning into one unified experience. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of value added, in my opinion, because an advisor would still have to go directly to the other systems to update them anyway.

They claim that they are combining behavioral analysis with a comprehensive financial view.  Their dashboard combines investments, taxes, estates, and insurance with a recommendation engine that builds a customized value proposition for each client.

William Mills on Twitter

Here in New York (vs. California) we see more capital market solutions than in other #Finovate cities. Interesting demo from Systelos! Web based investing platform with nice graphics. https://t.co/IF6sMkAtzs

Customer expectations have changed, they stated during the demo.  You need to make collaborative decisions.

Ian McKenna on Twitter

Great ideas from @systelos about how to demonstrate the added value of human advice in a digital world something that will resonate with many @_moneymarketing readers I need to explore this one in more detail #Finovate

Family dashboard with a real-time feed of all client interactions – highlight changes to clients portfolios


Tolerisk is a risk assessment and profiling tool for financial advisors that helps to answer important questions such as, “What’s the right level of risk?” and “What’s the probability that I run out of money?”

The company announced that they are expanding their services to support 401(k) plan participants with a goal of eliminating the use of generic target date funds. (See 5 Ways Big Data Can Improve Risk Tolerance Questionnaires)

Finovate on Twitter

@Tolerisk’s Mark Friedenthal and Ryan Wheeler debuting the Tolerisk 401(k), a tool that allows advisors to provide custom financial planning advice to participants in minutes #Finovate

According to founder Mark Friedenthal, Tolerisk’s use of dynamic mortality probabilities and directly mapping the risk profile to asset allocation will allow advisors to automatically adjust a client’s investment mix as they get older.

The company has integrations with popular CRMs such as Redtail and Wealthbox and plan to connect to wealth platforms from Orion Advisor Services and BlackDiamond in the future.

Ian McKenna on Twitter

Interesting to hear @Tolerisk suggest their services can made #TargetDateFunds obsolete I seem to remember @paulresnik suggesting the same thing a few years ago IIRC correctly Paul suggested #TDFs were #Unamerican this could be fun! #Finovate

Tolerisk was founded in 2014 and is headquartered in New Jersey



Averon has designed a system to eliminate the need for passwords as well as SMS-based two-factor authentication technology.  They have developed a system that uses QR Codes to enable instant logins using any smartphone.

Two factor authentication using SMS codes are broken, they declared from the stage.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

You have to be careful when taking screenshots during a live demo. https://t.co/jQNnPdanic tried to log me into their test site. I guess it works! #Finovate

What happened in above was that I took a screenshot and my phone automatically tried to execute the QR Code and take me to their demo site. Successful proof of concept!

One example of how this technology could prevent fraud is that Instagram was hacked via SMS codes sent to fake SIM cards. You shouldn’t blindly use in the same security measure with sensitive customer data that is not safe. 

Customers who are victims of fraud are 2X more likely to switch banks they reported.

One of the best closing lines of any demo today, “SMS was never designed for security. It was designed for teenagers.” 

Averon is headquartered in California and has raised $16 million in funding.

Ninth Wave

Ninth Wave is a data aggregation solution that claims to solve the security, ownership, transparency & data management challenges of open banking.  On the first day of Finovate, a press release was put out by Enterprise Engineering, Inc. (EEI) saying they were spinning out Ninth Wave as a wholly-owned subsidiary. 

CEO and founder George Anderson: “Our goal is to dramatically improve the safety of financial data sharing through innovation” and “put privacy, security, and control back where it belongs.”

EEI’s clients include eight of the top ten wealth managers, three of the top five U.S. banks, two government agencies, multinational financial services corporations and large credit unions from all over the country.


SecuredTouch offers a way for financial services firms to move beyond current user authentication methods like username/password, key fobs or even fingerprints, which are all subject to hacking and remote attacks.  I’ve been a big proponent of getting rid of passwords, although I thought that fingerprints were secure, until I saw this demo!

SecuredTouch technology creates a unique profile for each user by collecting and analyzing more than 100 physical behavior parameters, such as user finger pressure, finger size, mouse movements and/or touchscreen coordinates.

Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

Behavioral biometrics from @Secured_Touch analyzes data from gyroscope & accelerometer or keyboard & mouse to quickly identify if activity is from a human or a hacker-controlled bot #finovate

They leverage behavioral biometrics to uniquely identify and measure patterns in human interaction with any computing device. Behavioral biometrics adds an additional layer of security and provides seamless, continuous user authentication virtually impossible to imitate due to the innate nature of these characteristics, according to the company.

Powered with machine learning capabilities, the solution continuously monitors and improves its accuracy, learns a wide variety of pattern elements for each individual and analyzes everything in the background, dynamically improving the security layer.

These behavioral biometric profiles are effective at detecting a remote attack called credential stuffing, which is when  hackers create bots to automatically enter stolen credentials into websites to check if they are valid. They demoed an example of a user using voice recognition versus playing back a recording of his voice. The correctly identified the latter as a recording and blocked the login attempt.

beyondthearc on Twitter

Fraudsters are getting more sophisticated. Biometrics is one way to up your game in fraud prevention. @Secured_Touch balances security & user experience by using behavior biometrics for authentication & fraud detection. https://t.co/ur19WRz9Z3 #Finovate #Fintech @Finovate

I believe that this type of technology should be adopted by every website, not just financial services. Medical records, email, and social media all should be secured with behavioral biometrics to block hackers who are stealing passwords by the millions.  It would also make passwords obsolete, which would save everyone an incredible amount time and effort.  

Tala Security

Tala Security demonstrated their ClientPod product, which is designed to block client-side scripting attacks. These are attacks that take place in the browser of an end user who could then be connecting to the website of a bank or other financial institution.

Finovate on Twitter

Tala Security’s Aanand Krishnan and Siddhesh Yawalkar demoing ClientPod, a web security solution #Finovate

A typical example of a client-side attack is a malicious web page targeting a specific browser vulnerability that, if the attack is successful, would give the hacker complete control over the client system. Client-side attacks are not limited to the web setting, but these are the examples that were used in the demo.finovate fall 2018

Most security vendors have been focusing on protecting servers from remote attackers, so client-side attacks have become more popular among hackers. One particularly annoying attack has been from hackers tricking users into installing bitcoin mining code (called crypto-jacking attacks) through compromised Javascript.

Tala Software, which has raised $3 million since being founded in 2016 and has 6 employees, can help firms understand their “attack surface” meaning which part of the app is compromised, what platforms are vulnerable, how users are being attacked, etc.  It also can identify trojans (hacker code hidden inside innocuous programs) and other dangerous malware activity.

David Pinski on Twitter

Any bank that has unsecured java script is already out of business. Solve a problem banks actually have. #finovate

While David Pinski obviously disagrees, I think companies should give Tala a look when it comes to protecting their mission critical applications.

Investment Research


I found ETFLogic to have a unique solution that should do well in the wealth management space.  Their “Quant-in-a-Box” software answers questions around the liquidity and risk of ETFs using quant tools and analytics that traditionally have been difficult for advisors to understand or calculate. 

According to the 2018 Trends in Investing Survey from the Financial Planning Association an incredible 87% of financial advisors use ETFs. 

ETFLogic can compare details between multiple ETFs including expense ratios, underlying components, and performance.  They can also identify value/growth exposure in ETFs even if they do not have those words in their name.

Their TruCOST Trade Guidance tools provides transition analysis to show the portfolio impact of moving between different ETFs.

They seem to be a relatively small company and a niche platform, but the implications of the technology are exciting for ETF.  Currently just 12 clients including ETF issuers, traders, and hedge funds, but hopefully this exposure will get more firms interested in their tools.

Corporate Finance


iGTB has developed a corporate treasury solution that they refer to as a contextual banking platform (CBX).  It connects directly to the firm’s accounting platform (one example they gave was QuickBooks, which must be relatively small companies) to import transactions and analyze them.

The system leverages artificial intelligence and machine learning to generates actionable insights for financial professionals at banks and corporations whether they are the treasurer, the CFO, or the AP clerk.

One example shown in the demo was analyzing transaction history and Identifying an F/X exposure created from invoices denominated in a foreign currency. The system checked the balance of that currency and if there isn’t enough, it recommends solutions such as a currency forwards contract to mitigate the exposure.

The CBX system is available in a white label format so that banks can provide it to their corporate clients.

David Pinski on Twitter

iGTB pitching a corporate treasury solution. Identifies FX exposure and recommends solutions. Small business solution. Offering as white label to banks. Nicely done. #finovate

iGTB has 5,000 employees, is headquartered in London, and was founded in 1985. The company’s products are live in 90 countries and provide services for 192 banks.

Lending Solutions


allows lenders to get loan applicant account histories and verify income & other risk critical insight. Founded in 2016 and headquartered in Riga, Latvia, Nordigen announced $800,000 in new funding this week in a round led by Seedcamp and Finnish venture capital firm Inventure.

David Pinski on Twitter

If you are pitching an automated digital loan product you may not want to mention that you surface questions for a loan officer to investigate. If doesn’t sound like you’ve solved the use case. #finovate


Craig Iskowitz on Twitter

Nice visualizations of account balances and loan payments over time rather than just snapshots to give loan officers more information from online credit bureau Nordigen #finovate

I more of a visual learner.

Margarete Biallas on Twitter

Interesting solution in relation to derisking, but a long way to go before it can be applied in emerging markets #finovate https://t.co/dYu9zvOsn8

Roasting the Demos & Suggestions

Dan Latimore on Twitter

Interesting how companies at #Finovate are getting around the slideware prohibition by making what are effectively slides on a web page. Tried and true maxim: any system of rules can be gamed! #fintech

They take demos very seriously at Finovate. Companies tried to get away with showing screenshots or slideware in prior years when their product wasn’t ready. This year that was banned, but a few shifty vendors got around the prohibition by linking to static web pages! 

John Waupsh on Twitter

finovate – suggested changes to breathe new life: 1) 4m demo, 2) startup-only version, 3) real-time voting where 70%+ ? reduces left over time by 1/2, 4) real time audience Q&A for 3m, 5) Fintech cyphers a la Wild N Out

4 minute demos? I thought 8 minutes was rushing. I like the real-time voting aspect. Maybe a gong and giant hook for low scoring demos? Most audiences don’t have any questions or don’t have any good questions in my experience. Maybe a panel of judges to give feedback after each demo?